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    Adam Walker (Ramirez)


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    • Your Name Dexter_Gideon
    • Date of Incident 06/15/20 10:00 PM

    Rules broken: Powergaming. My complaint/appeal against Valentin apparently got closed so this is another attempt at justice. I'll provide screenshots below and I also believe there's a video, if the admin in question could provide that, that'd be a great addition as well. From the moment Ramirez left his car I started typing, this was quite enough time for me to reach for an M4. However, Ramirez/Shadow forced me to RP fear when I clearly wasn't scared due to me having a gun aimed back at him (PG). As quoted by the admin that closed the FC:

     

    I think it's best if I elaborate on the powergaming rule as a few people don't seem to understand it. Powergaming has two meanings,forcing roleplay on other players and roleplaying things that may not be considered as realistic. Two examples are listed below:

    1. /ME LINE - Harry Eastwood digs into the brick stone using his sharp finger nails and uses the holes he created to climb the 7 story building.

    2. /ME LINE - Harry Eastwood grips Dexter's shirt and pushes him backwards using full force. - Harry Eastwood pulls out a glock and shoots Dexter three time in the chest after the pushed him to ground level. - Harry fails to ask for a reason over /do and does not give Dexter enough time to respond to his RP line. 

    This second example corresponds to this situation. Yes, he typed his line first, but you're supposed to give the other person time to respond, which in this situation did not happen. At 32:20 (as seen on the screenshots), Ramirez put on a balaclava (I had already seen his face at this point so why even bother?) and I, as I stated before, started reacting (typing) as you'd do in real. When he blocked my car and put on a mask, this the final straw of my suspicious of him which resulted in me grabbing my gun. So, the argument that I "wouldn't have enough time" is invalid, I hope the video will proof this (haven't seen it so I don't know what's on it). Based on these facts, you can see he literally forced me to RP fear and then I was prisoned for it? 

    I don't mean to offend anyone, my only aim it to clear this misinformation. This is not the only FC that has been when the other party clearly PG's. When someone pulls out a gun, you'd obviously see that. In this situation, I even reached for my gun prior to that. A good way to ACTUALLY get the upper hand on someone would be if you'd have your gun holstered at the back of your pants and do a roleplay line that you'd scratch your back or already have your hand placed on your back. Otherwise, the other party can pull out their own gun, obviously. Just because you type something earlier/faster doesn't mean the other party can't respond to it. R(ole)P(lay) is supposed to reenact real life. 

    Also, Shadow admitted that the guy didn't RP properly yet the admin who handled the other complaint claims he did, while the admin on-scene claimed he didn't? I was told to make an FC against Ramirez rather then the admin.

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    As I've seen in the Screenshots, Ramirez' RP is so poor. Obviously, 3 seconds are between your RP line and his, which means you were typing before him but his RP was consisting of one word that's why he was the first one to post his RP line. But, being fast in typing doesn't give you the advantage of forcing RP on someone which is considered as PG, and he clearly did. There's no gun fear here since you already had your weapon out on you, and he didn't RP properly in the first line. He could've won this, but he didn't RP properly.

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    Also, Shadow admitted that the guy didn't RP properly yet the admin who handled the other complaint claims he did

     

    I actually do not remember saying that he did not roleplay it properly, and that 'other' admin is the server owner.

     

    Fyi, the video I sent to Vivi and Invader, I clearly stated that the roleplay Ramiz did "should be considered as valid roleplay, because S*RP has been forcing players to roleplay on heavy standards although they are/were low to medium roleplay server", hence, I do not see a reason why this should be /RESOLVED/, but the FC against me is /CLOSED/..?

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    4 hours ago, Shadow said:

    Also, Shadow admitted that the guy didn't RP properly yet the admin who handled the other complaint claims he did

     

    I actually do not remember saying that he did not roleplay it properly, and that 'other' admin is the server owner.

     

    Fyi, the video I sent to Vivi and Invader, I clearly stated that the roleplay Ramiz did "should be considered as valid roleplay, because S*RP has been forcing players to roleplay on heavy standards although they are/were low to medium roleplay server", hence, I do not see a reason why this should be /RESOLVED/, but the FC against me is /CLOSED/..?

    I was told you said that by another admin but never mind that then. His roleplay can be valid, although I think that /me aims should be more specific, as this does not mean he's aiming at me. /me aims at Dexter should be enough, I'm not forcing anyone to roleplay heavily. Anyways, as I stated already just because he types something faster does not make my actions invalid. Your statement that players are forced to roleplay on heavy standards goes both ways. Someone can RP light/medium but the other party that roleplays on a higher standard shouldn't be in an automatic disadvantage either because they elaborate more on their actions (and type longer) rather than use one word. And I think someone in a group should at least roleplay at a medium standard rather then light but that's another topic.. I actually drew my weapon before him (but he typed faster). But I accepted that we both aimed our weapons at each other. Then you said that he drew his weapon faster and I should RP fear? How does that make any sense? This is also not the first FC that got closed/resolved because someone "didnt rp fear properly" when taking out their gun when the other party does. You're allowed to do that. As I stated on my post already: "A good way to ACTUALLY get the upper hand on someone would be if you'd have your gun holstered at the back of your pants and do a roleplay line that you'd scratch your back or already have your hand placed on your back. Otherwise, the other party can pull out their own gun, obviously. Just because you type something earlier/faster doesn't mean the other party can't respond to it. R(ole)P(lay) is supposed to reenact real life."

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    By the time I had aimed at you and had you under my aim you cocked your gun but not had aimed it. If you have anything else to add feel free to. If admins see me in the wrong go ahead and ajail me. You're litteraly posting a FC of yourself not role-playing fear. The screenshot proves it was not only my typing skills but the way I acted. Let alone my aim was up way before you even had the rp line of yourself clogging or whatever smart ass word you used your firearm. You're in the complete wrong and you know of that. Take a loss, Mr. Gideon. 

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    8 hours ago, Weezly said:

    By the time I had aimed at you and had you under my aim you cocked your gun but not had aimed it. If you have anything else to add feel free to. If admins see me in the wrong go ahead and ajail me. You're litteraly posting a FC of yourself not role-playing fear. The screenshot proves it was not only my typing skills but the way I acted. Let alone my aim was up way before you even had the rp line of yourself clogging or whatever smart ass word you used your firearm. You're in the complete wrong and you know of that. Take a loss, Mr. Gideon. 

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    Can you equip and aim a weapon scriptwise from a car? No, you have to type it..

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